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(Archie) Recording from now!
(dick/CHAIR) from other sigs we can always go as SIG Atari
(dick/CHAIR) logo users group!
(Tom Goltz) Dick- I think Apple may have their own Logo thing going on.
(dick/CHAIR) looks like a good -- no, a great -- group
(dick/CHAIR) so why don't we get started. ok out by all
(dick/CHAIR) ga
(Marlene) yes
(- tom) Fine with me.
(d.g.g.) Tom -- Tonight or in general?
(- tom) Dgg- In general.
(Archie) GA
(Ron Winn) ok
(dick/CHAIR) TOM>>I was up to...
(dick/CHAIR) Maug once and looked...
(dick/CHAIR) through there data bases...
(dick/CHAIR) for logo stuff...
(dick/CHAIR) found nothing.ga
(Marlene) #
(- tom) Dick- Okay, I wasn't sure. What is the out in the way
(- tom) Dick- Of logo for the Atari? ga
(dick/CHAIR) logo for the apple!
(dick/CHAIR) Marlene, first
(- tom) Dick- I have Krell Logo for the Apple, its not running on the Atari though!
(- tom) (ga)
(Marlene) Will there be a written transcript of...
(Marlene) tonites meeting in the xa's ?
(Archie) #
(dick/CHAIR) ARCH, has got his...
(dick/CHAIR) disk running.
(dick/CHAIR) archie ga
(Marlene) Are you going to upload it Arch?
(Archie) If we want, I can upload it to xa5
(- tom) Archie- Would appreciate it.
(dick/CHAIR) OK. GOOD...
(d.g.g.) Think it might be good if we can text edit...
(Archie) When I flash !#!, it will mean I have to spool to disk--have 3/4 of memory still
(dick/CHAIR) PROTOCOL FOR TONITE:
(dick/CHAIR) TYPE "#" TO TALK
(dick/CHAIR) TYPE "GA" WHEN DONE.
(d.g.g.) so that it
(dick/CHAIR) #
(d.g.g.) Sorry dick, blew my own device.ga
(dick/CHAIR) I'm doing a back up
(henry h) #
(dick/CHAIR) dave>s'alright
(dick/CHAIR) hery ga
(dick/CHAIR) er henry ga
(henry h) just reporting in!!!
(dick/CHAIR) and welcome
(Marlene) hi hh
(dick/CHAIR) ok no problem
(henry h) hi all
(Archie) Seven so far in CO
(- tom) (Hi henry)
(dick/CHAIR) its a brain trust!
(dick/CHAIR) #
(Archie) #
(- tom) #
(dick/CHAIR) first item on the agenda is our ...
(dick/CHAIR) membership...
(dick/CHAIR) as suggested last week by ARCH...
(dick/CHAIR) finding out what people are up to...
(dick/CHAIR) and doing...
(dick/CHAIR) with Logo, ...
(dick/CHAIR) anyone want to start?
(Archie) #
(d.g.g.) #
(dick/CHAIR) arch, tom , and then dave
(Archie) Can I get everyone's full name for the records?
(- tom) Archie- Tom Goltz [70007,1035]
(dick/CHAIR) Richard Brudzynski [74035,1550]
(henry h) henry hillbrath [70725,1470]
(Ron) Ron Winn [73145,340]
(Archie) Archie Strong [70535,545]
(d.g.g.) David g. Groves [70775,712]
(d.g.g.) ##
(Archie) GA
(dick/CHAIR) dgg>after tom
(dick/CHAIR) tom ga
(- tom) Okay. I've not been doing much of anything actually. (Too busy fighting
(- tom) hardware problems), but I was wondering if there is or will be versions
(- tom) of Logo out for the Atari? ga
(dick/CHAIR) TOM>> I THINK KRELL IS AVAILABLE NOW...
(d.g.g.) Tom there is a good cart....$98.00
(- tom) (Ouch!)
(dick/CHAIR) AND LCSI HAS RELEASED ONE TO ATARI...
(dick/CHAIR) SHOULD BE IN THE STORES NOW! <GA>
(Archie) #
(d.g.g.) It will it is the Atari Cart I refer to.
(dick/CHAIR) DGG>GA
(dick/CHAIR) THEN ARCH
(d.g.g.) Anyhow, I suspect that LIST capabilities might make...
(d.g.g.) an interesting base for Adventure games...
(d.g.g.) with the added cuteness of the graphics...
(d.g.g.) I did a 4 Turtle race with commentary..
(d.g.g.) night one! anyone else played with it?ga
(dick/CHAIR) arch>ga
(Archie) The Atari Cartridge can be obtained considerably cheaper--I paid $75 at AB..
(Archie) Computing in Montgomeryville, PA
(Archie) I have an interest in the LIST capabilities, since I have used LISP..
(dick/CHAIR) #
(Archie) How many others are interested in the LISP-likeness? GA
(Wayne) Hello, all. Logo cartridges are showing up in my area only a few at a time.
(d.g.g.) #
(dick/CHAIR) hi wayne!
(- tom) #
(Wayne) That is my primary interest--I've had a lot of fun with list processing...
(dick/CHAIR) Arch>>haven't seen much LISP...
(dick/CHAIR) TYPE "#" TO TALK
(Wayne) and am now interested enough to look at Lisp on larger computers.
(dick/CHAIR) WAYNE>>
(dick/CHAIR) ...
(Wayne) Ok
(dick/CHAIR) TYPE "#" TO TALK
(dick/CHAIR) thanks
(Archie) #
(dick/CHAIR) Just about everything I've done...
(dick/CHAIR) to date is up in XA 5 ...
(dick/CHAIR) under /key:LOGO
(dick/CHAIR) ...
(dick/CHAIR) my proudest to date is SAVPRO...
(dick/CHAIR) which allows you to save an...
(dick/CHAIR) individual procedure out ...
(dick/CHAIR) of the work space...
(d.g.g.) #
(dick/CHAIR) Current projects...
(dick/CHAIR) An automatic programming utility...
(dick/CHAIR) which records immediate mode
(dick/CHAIR) commands, assembles them into a ...
(dick/CHAIR) program, checks syntax...
(dick/CHAIR) and allows you to back step forward...
(dick/CHAIR) and back...
(dick/CHAIR) Also working on a FILL command...
(dick/CHAIR) and an appropriate response to henry's...
(dick/CHAIR) canard that one turtle can't point at...
(dick/CHAIR) another!
(dick/CHAIR) dgg >>ga then tom then arch
(d.g.g.) Thnx...
(henry h) hello???
(d.g.g.) It sounds to me like there are 2 schools of user ...
(d.g.g.) the list processors & the graphics drawers....
(d.g.g.) Dick, I suggest we give Arch a ! priority to dump this...
(dick/CHAIR) SOUNDS GOOD!
(Wayne) #
(d.g.g.) as needed and something else to t/o for /ust's. ga
(dick/CHAIR) MARLENE IS USTing
(Marlene) I certainly am - and watch your language Dick!!!
(Archie) Is she USTo that?
(dick/CHAIR) Iff dave's finished, its Arch's turn
(dick/CHAIR) hehehehe
(- tom) Achie- (Ugh!)
(Archie) What about Tom?
(dick/CHAIR) pheh!
(- tom) Indeed, what about Tom?
(dick/CHAIR) SORRY
(dick/CHAIR) ...
(dick/CHAIR) your right >>tom ga
(dick/CHAIR) then arch
(- tom) How much compatability is there between the various versions of Logo
(- tom) for the Atari (& Apple), and; How much free memory do you have? In the
(dick/CHAIR) TYPE "GA" WHEN DONE.
(dick/CHAIR) tom>>
(- tom) Apple version that I have, you run through memory like
(- tom) it's going out of style. (On a machine
(- tom) that can handle 40k text files, its upsetting!) ga
(Archie) I believe that the company which produced LOGO is the same for Apple and Atari.
(dick/CHAIR) anyone>want to respond?
(Wayne) #
(dick/CHAIR) LCSI>>therre the same
(Archie) I haven't done enough to blow up memory yet--but I do get a lot of pauses..
(dick/CHAIR) except our's is a lot better!!!
due to garbage collecting.
(- tom) ( I have the Krell version for the Apple)
(dick/CHAIR) Memory is pretty short in the ATARI...
(Archie) I am interested in both graphics (dick/CHAIR) I forget how many Nodes ...
and lists--
(d.g.g.) #
(Wayne) #
(dick/CHAIR) I get on recycle.
(Archie) especially in use with education--anyone else similarly inclined?
GA
(dick/CHAIR) apple , krell are easy translations
(dick/CHAIR) wayne>>ga
(- tom) (Dick- Good!)
(Wayne) The various Logo's I've looked at...
(Wayne) (Krell, Apple, and so on) are very similar...
(Wayne) much more so than BASICs on different machines...
(dick/CHAIR) #
(Wayne) Since there are no books right now on the Atari specific version...
(Wayne) I suggest Abelson's book (Logo for the Apple) and Watt's book (Learning with Logo). ga
(dick/CHAIR) dgg>ga
(d.g.g.) #
(dick/CHAIR) dgg>wayne's working on an adventure!
(dick/CHAIR) dgg>ga
(Wayne) #
(d.g.g.) Would pooling our mutual insights and writing a book for profit as...
(d.g.g.) a group be against SIG policy....
(d.g.g.) Can Papert control LOGO to the extent...
(d.g.g.) that it won't become like the basics, pascals, etc....
(- tom) #
(d.g.g.) Have All of you read the three or so...
(d.g.g.) major, recent articles?ga
(dick/CHAIR) dick , then wayne
(dick/CHAIR) I would think that...
(dick/CHAIR) SIG policy would encourage us...
(henry h) neopotisim!!!
(dick/CHAIR) to pool our talents...
(dick/CHAIR) hehehehe
(dick/CHAIR) to produce something commercial if...
(dick/CHAIR) we so choose...
(- tom) (CompuServe could cause problems
(dick/CHAIR) stuff we develop here...
(DANIEL CHANEY) HI EVERYBODY
(dick/CHAIR) could be a spring board..